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Art at its Worst

Sun Jun 21, 2009, 10:15 AM
So, I'm doing a lot of small side jobs with my art and design to make some money to start buying back everything I lost when I was robbed. I've learned a pretty horrible truth. Well, not quite LEARNED, but it is a thought that has definitely been supported by clients.

I'm not one to badmouth people, but the number of cheapskates out there is RIDICULOUS. It got to the point where I either worked for nothing or didn't work. I decided I'd do ANY job if it paid over $100. Bad decision.

So now I have some guy who wants me to do photo manipulation like he's seen on the Ed Hardy site and a few other major professional sites. He wants me to put his models on a background, so he says. His photos he sends are UTTER CRAP. No wonder everyone else has told him they won't work with others' photos. His models are all cut off on at LEAST one side. What do you want me to do?!

I tell him for what he wants, his crappy photos on a background I have to somehow pull out of thin air with all of the edits he wants done and as impossible as he is, I'll charge $500 for the over TEN total pictures he wants done. He says he'll pay $150 for all of them and sends me my work. My new policy is ANY job over $100. Damn my new rule. I'm getting paid about $10 per picture to do something he'd probably usually get charged in the hundreds for.

He's bitching about the backgrounds. He wants it done very specifically. He sends me pictures of what he wants. All are ACTUAL images with the model ACTUALLY in that background. The only photo editing done is to the colors and lighting.

He basically is asking me to fix his crappy pictures and add them into a bright and colorful warzone but the models actually have to be there. When I have made some progress, I send him an email at the end of night one to show him what I have. I tell him I haven't shadowed her or anything yet but I'm looking for feedback on the background and on all the filling in I had to do to give her complete arms. He replies with "If you look at my site the rotating banner on the bottom and the hom page and top banner I did myself so i looking for someone to work with me for the long term, but they have to good creative work. the image you sent yesterday was bad stock image that the color was just change and you added the girl you did not even fade her in or shadow her in." Anyone that sees the half completed background would KNOW it's not just stock I changed the color on. I am NOT getting paid enough to be completely insulted by someone who created a really terrible banner.

He then sent some more professional images with models either actually in the location or added to a surreal digitally painted background. He sends more cut off models. He is pretty much asking for the impossible. I don't know what he is thinking. He now wants me to do several more test images. For free. He doesn't understand this AT ALL and definitely doesn't know the depth or cost of work like this. I have to fix the cut off images somehow, pull a background out of NOWHERE, add in stuff he wants out of NOWHERE, explain somehow that the picture looks off if the angles are different and he took the images at very odd angles, wait to be insulted, and try all over again.

Any suggestions?

  • Mood: Tired

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:iconloreo-cookies:
That really sucks... If you're that stressed and frustrated, then maybe it's not worth it to put up with him. Try pointing out the problems with the models and such, and if he doesn't understand or continues to show the harsh criticism, you could tell him enough is enough and say that you can't work with him. Just be civil about it. o.o

I wish I could help. D: I would ask for the planet's easiest commissions or something if I actually had any money. x.x' <~~~ No job, no allowance of any kind.
:iconeveryrosedesigns:
It's just so frustrating to be working doing what you love but hating one particular job so fiercely. I have friends who have read the emails and seen what he wants and everything. They are all in such shock at how rude he is and at what he's asking for and at such a low cost that they think I need to just chew him out. I couldn't do that, but they are that upset and they aren't even the ones putting up with it. I'm pretty much doing this guy a favor and he's getting on my case in the worst English I've ever read about wanting it to be completely different than how he just described it.

You should start doing some commissions...Your avatars are so cute! I'm betting you could get some decent commissions to do some pixel art for custom icons and avatars. I'm actually thinking about doing a featured artist type thing for a newsletter on my website. I'd gladly feature you :) And I have a downloads section with wallpapers, brushes, etc. made by me and my friends/employees with links to their sites that get them some decent traffic. Let me know if I can help you in any way.

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Courtney Rose:blackrose:
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If it's not worth the money in the end, then don't work with the guy. He seems like a nuisance, and you'd be better off working with more understanding and patient people, who know more about this stuff and who won't stress you for such a tiny amount of money.

Thanks, but the bases aren't mine, so I can't make any money off of them. xD I'm trying to get better, though, so I can eventually make my own bases and maybe then take commissions. Not like I have a credit card or Paypal account or anything for the omney to go to... I hardly even know how commissions work. xD Fail.
:iconeveryrosedesigns:
You can get a PayPal account free no problem though.

And I think you're right about this gig...

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Courtney Rose:blackrose:
website: [link]
:iconloreo-cookies:
Yeah, but as I said, I don't use my own bases. But when I make my own, I'll probably consider it. :3

I'm not a big fan of doing commissions, unless I'm pretty into the idea. Otherwise, I just kinda leave the project there to rot. x.x' Bad me. Dx

I'd hope I'm not right, but if he's really obnoxious, and if he's hardly paying you a good amount, then tell him to either compromise or you'll drop it alltogether. You should probably work with better people who know more about what they're doing.
:iconeveryrosedesigns:
Yeah...

Well, I'm trying to barter my services for something amazing to change my whole life. If that happens, I'll drop the gig with this guy.

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Courtney Rose:blackrose:
website: [link]
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Good luck finding a better person to work with.
:iconeveryrosedesigns:
The solution solved itself. I didn't respond for a day because I had work and he yelled at me and said respond or he'd drop me, so I didn't respond :P

I'm already finding better people to work with.

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Courtney Rose:blackrose:
website: [link]
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Awesome, that sounds great. :D

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